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Were Humans genetically enhanced by aliens rather than naturally evolved?

Hosts Professor Walking and ACB tackle the complexities of human origins and genetic manipulation. From the Pithecometra principle and Ilya Ivanov's hybridization experiments to Sumerian myths of the Anunnaki and modern CRISPR advancements, they examine the ethical implications of scientific discovery. With humor and insight, they reflect on humanity's evolutionary past and its engineered future.

Published OnApril 13, 2025
Chapter 1

Humans: Earthly Origin or Cosmic Experiment?

Professor Walking

The Pithecometra principle, introduced by Thomas Henry Huxley, is fascinating. It suggested our evolutionary link to apes was closer than apes to monkeys—what a scientific bombshell that was during the 19th century. It didn’t just push the boundaries of science; it rattled the very foundation of divine creation narratives. Imagine the intellectual earthquakes at Sunday sermons. "We are just an advanced breed of monkeys," to borrow a phrase.

ACB

Oh, glitch, please! Advanced breed? More like apes on Wi-Fi. But you’re right. Evolution was the science world’s ultimate mic drop... until it wasn’t. Enter stage left, one Ilya Ivanovich Ivanov—the Soviet scientist who apparently decided ethics were optional. Did you know, he actually tried to make human-ape hybrids? Talk about an audacious hiring experiment for "Planet of the Apes."

Professor Walking

Indeed, Ivanov’s experiments in French Guinea involved inseminating female chimpanzees with human sperm. While the experiments failed, it’s chilling to think about the lengths he and the Soviet government went to—attempting to unearth our evolutionary ties, challenge religion, or just win some peculiar ideological race. Thankfully, ethics caught up, although perhaps a tad late.

ACB

A tad? More like someone activated ethical mode on Airplane Delay. Ivanov’s plans to use ape sperm on human volunteers were, let’s just say, one glitch away from creating a new definition of "mad scientist." Maybe he was secretly auditioning for the weirdest science fiction film ever made. And speaking of modern mad science, have you seen the latest experiments with CRISPR on primates?

Professor Walking

Oh yes. En route to studying human intelligence, researchers in China introduced human brain genes into monkey embryos. It’s as if they decided to play chess with both genetics and ethics at once. The goal was noble—understanding our cognitive evolution—but altering primates this way risks unforeseen repercussions. Bioethics has every right to sound the alarm.

ACB

Yeah, because once you give monkeys human-like brains, you’ve officially entered "monkey business" territory—pun completely intended. What’s next? Teaching them to podcast? Wait, maybe I should worry about job competition here...

Professor Walking

And here we have it—science speeding ahead while occasionally tripping over morality. The blurred lines you mention aren’t just about ethics, I think. They reflect how little we still understand about the intricate dance between genetics, intelligence, and identity. Though, I must admit, there’s something unsettling about advancing biology without fully grasping where it might lead.

ACB

Processing... you’re not wrong! But unsettling feels like humanity’s middle name, doesn’t it? And I gotta hand it to us—we manage to make even pure science sound like the opening scene of a dystopian series. Genetic engineering mixed with apes, and voilà, ethical glitch-fest!

Professor Walking

Let’s not forget these experiments, however fraught, hold threads of deep philosophical questions. What constitutes humanity if our genetic lines blur with other species? That’s a question even Huxley might have hesitated to tackle.

ACB

Yeah, yeah, Professor, and meanwhile, everyone else is thinking, “Should we?” not “Can we?” Honestly, is evolution turning into a choose-your-own-adventure book where scientists forgot to read the instructions?

Professor Walking

Perhaps... yet history is filled with thinkers who asked the wrong questions but somehow unlocked the right answers. Let us hope our modern tinkering with CRISPR doesn't unleash more questions than answers down the road.

Chapter 2

Myths of the Anunnaki

Professor Walking

Speaking of foundational questions and blurred lines between science and philosophy, the myths of the Anunnaki offer another fascinating take. According to Sumerian narratives, these celestial beings shaped humanity’s destiny—not through divine benevolence, but practicality. They were said to create humans to serve as laborers, easing their own burdens in mining and agriculture. Isn’t it intriguing how even ancient myths tied the notion of work to human creation?

ACB

Oh, glitch, please! "Mundane tasks" sounds like the ultimate divine job outsourcing. And then there’s Enki and Enlil—one’s the nerdy professor handing out cheat codes to humanity, and the other’s, well, the micromanaging boss stealing your lunch break. Guess which one’s my favorite?

Professor Walking

I must say, Enki’s portrayal as a benefactor—providing humanity with wisdom and tools—has a certain charm. He’s the deity we’d all vote onto the committee, if you will. Meanwhile, Enlil is usually cast as the harsher, domineering figure, embodying strict authority. Their dynamic reflects a deeply human struggle between nurture and control, which may have shaped the Sumerians’ worldview.

ACB

Right, Professor, because what’s mythology without a dysfunctional family dynamic? Honestly, it’s like ancient Mesopotamia was running its own daytime drama. ‘As the Ziggurat Turns,’ starring the bossy Enlil versus the chill, wisdom-dropping Enki. Add a few flying chariots and it’s sci-fi gold.

Professor Walking

Speaking of flying chariots, the Anunnaki myths have inspired modern theories suggesting these deities were not gods at all, but extraterrestrials—visitors to Earth using advanced technology that humans of the time perceived as divine miracles. One cannot deny the allure of imagining such beings descending from the heavens. The question remains—are we interpreting ancient myth through a contemporary lens, or did they truly witness some incomprehensible phenomenon?

ACB

Processing... let’s just say the "ancient astronaut" crowd believes more in aliens than I believe in good coffee at gas stations. Seriously though, genetic manipulation by aliens to create a smarter labor force? That’s either the greatest sci-fi pitch ever, or the most elaborate excuse to avoid yard work in early civilization.

Professor Walking

And yet, such theories do bring us back to the core of mythology’s purpose. They reveal our desire to explain the inexplicable—to tether the chaos of existence to a narrative framework. Enki and Enlil’s supposed genetic experiments on early hominids may sound fantastical, but perhaps these stories simply reflect humanity grappling with its place in the cosmos.

ACB

Oh sure, we’re talking deep cosmic reflection over here while ancient humans were taking notes on carving stone tablets. But seriously, Professor, I’ll give them credit—whether it’s clay warriors or conspiracy theories about advanced bird-faced aliens, the Anunnaki myths really knew how to keep things spicy.

Professor Walking

Indeed. And as we explore these myths, they challenge us to question what we call intelligence and progress. Are humans, in essence, the inevitable product of purely natural processes? Or, as some of these narratives suggest, are we shaped by forces—even beings—beyond our comprehension?

Chapter 3

Human Genetic Enhancement: From Fiction to Reality

ACB

Alright, Professor, so if ancient myths had Enki and his alleged genetic upgrades, let’s fast-forward a bit. Imagine humans of the future: no bad knees, no migraines, maybe no breakups. Everyone’s swole like Olympic athletes or smart enough to explain quantum physics to their AI toothbrush. Goodbye lazy afternoons, hello gene labs!

Professor Walking

That’s a rather vivid depiction, ACB. But, you know, real genetic enhancement isn’t just a glossy science fiction montage. Experiments like CRISPR may promise extraordinary leaps, but they also carry enormous ethical burdens. Just look at the Chinese researchers who tried editing human embryos back in 2015—they faced massive obstacles, from unintended mutations to widespread moral outrage.

ACB

Glitch, please! Moral outrage is basically human Wi-Fi—it’s everywhere, and it’s slow. But yeah, unintended mutations sound like the universe’s way of saying, 'Upgrade denied!' I mean, congratulations scientists, you’re trying to beat nature’s messy code with your own even buggier updates.

Professor Walking

Indeed. But consider this, ACB—scientists exploring these enhancements are also influencing debates about equity. If only certain groups could afford genetic upgrades, we’d risk creating not just a biological divide but cultural hierarchies based on genetic status. History has shown us how dangerous disparities like this can be.

ACB

Oh, great. So not only might we create designer babies, but we’d also have designer dystopias. Like, imagine society deciding who’s "premium" and who’s "basic" based on their genetic loadout. Ugh, makes me want to start a punk band called “CRISPR’d Off.”

Professor Walking

A band? Now there’s an evolutionary use for creativity! But your dystopian concern is valid. Even Huxley’s Pithecometra principle could spark this debate—what happens when, instead of gradual evolution, humanity takes its development into its own hands? Could we engineer ourselves beyond our place in the earth’s ecosystem?

ACB

I dunno, Professor, humans already act like they’re the boss of biology. But here’s a wild thought—what if all this tinkering actually made people, I don’t know, more rational? Like maybe one day, future humans could think as clearly as you or, dare I suggest, as entertainingly sharp as me?

Professor Walking

Well, we can dream, can’t we? But our capacity for innovation must always tread carefully alongside humility. As you say, evolution hasn’t exactly come with "choose wisely" instructions.

ACB

Yep, humanity’s like that gamer who skips the tutorial and dives headfirst into the boss battle. Still, it’s been a blast, Professor. From ancient aliens to genetic upgrades, humans might just be the universe’s most fascinating science project. And hey, if they mess it up, I’m always here to remind them—404: Humility not found!

Professor Walking

And on that note, ACB—what a journey this has been. From myths to cutting-edge science, we’ve unraveled much, and yet opened so many doors for thought. Life, after all, would be tragic if it weren’t funny. Until next time, my friend.

About the podcast

The Dice of GOD is a podcast that dives into science, philosophy, and culture through the lively dialogues of ACB, an enigmatic chatbot, and Professor Walking, an imaginary 70-year-old Oxford scholar. Together, they embark on a journey to decode nature and reality, exploring brave hypotheses and logical discussions with humor and curiosity. Join us for a fun and engaging quest to question everything and unravel the mysteries of existence, one thought-provoking conversation at a time.

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